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August 28, 2005

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fausto

Believe it or not, you can get a Unitarian baptism that will get you admitted to Episcopal communion without having to confess the Nicene or Apostles' Creeds or that Jesus is divine. I've seen it done a couple of times. It's an anachronism from our Unitarian Christian heyday, but the ceremony still exists, and it is an authentic baptism, and Christian UU clergy (and even many non-Christian ones) are willing to perform it, if not necessarily advertise it.

Beth

Fausto, thanks so much for this information. I should contact my UU minister about this. But maybe it wouldn't be right to ask her for a baptism so that I attend another church without problems. Hmm.

knomad

Instead of getting baptized which would mean being baptized in the name of the Trinity talk to the Priest at the Episcopal church about going to the altar with your daughters and receiving a blessing instead of communion. If they know what you prefer I a sure they will be happy to oblige. Also you may go to the altar rail and when then come to you just request their blessing. Don't put your hands out for the bread or wine. I saw this done several times when I was a practicing Episcopalian before I joined the UU's in 1975

Philocrites

I anticipate being in your situation myself once we have kids because my wife is in the process of becoming an Episcopal priest. The only way we get to go to church together is for me to go with her, and of course most of the time she's sitting up front and I'm out in the congregation.

You can simply cross your arms at the altar to receive a blessing while others are receiving communion. A blessing can be a very nice way to participate without feeling compromised or hypocritical. Some Episcopal parents actual have their children do this out of an ex-Catholic sense that children shouldn't receive communion until confirmation, but the Episcopal church actually teaches that any baptised person -- young or old -- can receive communion.

Here in Massachusetts, a few Episcopal churches practice "open communion" -- which is also the way the Unitarian Universalist Christian church King's Chapel does it -- which welcomes anyone to take communion, whether they've been baptised or not.

fausto

I don't think a Unitarian minister should be reluctant to baptize you so that you can take Episcopal communion. It's a legitimate reason. The whole point of baptism is membership in the entire "body of Christ" across the world and down through time. If you want to share in the "body of Christ" but can't accept the theology of the service the Episcopalians would offer, that's precisely why you would need a Unitarian baptism.

I found a sermon on baptism from a Unitarian point of view by Rev. Tom Wintle of the Frist Parish Church (UU) in Weston, Mass. Here it is:

http://www.firstparishweston.org/sermons/wintlesermons/baptismtheology.html

fausto

Hmm, the link disappeared when I checked back here. Then I went to another page, and when I came back the link was there again.

Well, if that happens while you're reading, you can go to the website of the First Parish in Weston (www.firstparishweston.org), and then look in the sermon archive for the one on baptism.

Christi

I can relate to the description of UU services--I think that's part of why I've drifted away a bit.

I think talking to a priest about your dilemma might be a good idea; you'd get to know the clergy better and find a solution that presumably would work for everyone.

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